HCJ Project exhibition discussion

[marcusmarguillier]

- If we decide to have "members only" in the exhibition, the question is how many pieces each one has to put in to have enough for an exhibition...
So I agree with 2Roses to open up participation and use it as a recruiting tool for new members.

Have a nice day!
Marcus

[Fie von Krogh]

2 Roses suggest:
Members Only or Non-Members
It is our opinion that the exhibit should be open to HCJ members only, BUT that we should also use the Exhibit as a recruiting tool to get more artists involved in the project. We propose the following: Open up participation in the show to all artists interested in submitting. Acceptance into the show automatically confers acceptance into HCJ.

This sounds like a good idea- Open up participation in the show to all artists interested in submitting......use the Exhibit as a recruiting tool to get more artists involved in the project.

2 Roses:
Number of pieces per artist
As this will be a selling show, the point has already been raised about replacing pieces that are sold. We suggest that a commitment of participation be 5 pieces. The 5 pieces would be held in inventory by the Exhibit Administration. Upon a sale, the artists work would be replaced from inventory.

Sorry if I`m a bit slow... Just to make it clear; does it mean that not all pieces necessarily need to be displayed at once? I`m asking this because, if one of the pieces are sold, I will not be able to replace it because all pieces are uniqueates (how do I spell it?)

[theaclark]

Yes, agreed, a selling show motivates all parties involved. I spoke with Christine Bossler at Snag about this exhibition. She shared her what she accomplished and what she learned from her experience at the helm of the international exhibit "Air". Hopefully she will chime in here herself. She said in retrospect she would want one person in each country (or area of a large country) to take on securing a venue. What does everyone think of this?

[Jillian Moore]

The points made about using the exhibition as a recruitment tool are excellent. I think it's a good way to keep focus on the project while widening our membership and expanding the number of people in the show.

Though I missed the initial discussion because of the Conference and subsequent deadlines, I'm glad everyone is on the same page with selling work.

Also, guest curators pulled from the gallery system is ideal. Hopefully it will be a way to add support from galleries to the project and strengthen the ties we already have with those involved.


I wish I'd had a chance to speak with Thea and Christine about this while I was at SNAG. I'm curious to hear more about Christine's experiences in organizing Air. I was part of that project, and I have to say that it has completely run out of steam at this point. I do not want this project to go in the same direction. That project began with the intention that EACH participant find a venue. I had been looking into campus venues here until the flood destroyed them. It is not entirely possible for each participant to find a venue, but with the alteration mentioned from your discussion--making it geographic zones instead of individuals, it would be much more possible. Some of us live in areas with much more limited exhibition options...

[bert]

... I'm glad everyone is on the same page with selling work.

This point is now settled

Also, guest curators pulled from the gallery system is ideal. Hopefully it will be a way to add support from galleries to the project and strengthen the ties we already have with those involved.

This is point #5 in john's breakdown (will be discussed later, the order is not set numerically)

.. I wish I'd had a chance to speak with Thea and Christine about this while I was at SNAG. ........

The more open this discussion the better. Thea is popping up now and again (if you mean Thea in the post above yours ); If you meant Christine Bossler, I "bummped" her shortly after this discussion started but she's not turned up for a while. She last checked in May 19th Shame you didn't "brainstorm" in the real world when you met up.
[You can see when people last visited by clicking the links in "Legend" at the bottom of the forum front page.]

Do any of you know that we can chat real time and even audio conference (max five people) for free on the site??
The only issue is setting a time for people to all be on the site at the same time!!!
I keep announcing all these improvments which I'm working hard on but NO ONE ever comments, so I don't know if you about them (when was the last time anyone asked anything in the help forum?)

...... It is not entirely possible for each participant to find a venue, but with the alteration mentioned from your discussion--making it geographic zones instead of individuals, it would be much more possible. Some of us live in areas with much more limited exhibition options...

I personally favour encouraging venues (galleries etc) to participate, rather than expecting everything to be organised by "foot soldiers". Though I think a "personal introduction" may be necessary in many cases before a gallery would entertain the idea of a collaborative discussion towards a common goal.
This is a point for later in this thread.

Note: I've updated the draft / overview document

Discuss this point next?
Members only or Non-members?

[Jillian Moore]

With regard to the Members/Non-Members issue...I feel it should be members only. That being said, if we can draft the call for entry in a way that lays everything out appropriately, we should use this as a recruitment tool. Of course, having the galleries lined up might help. Either way, participation in the show means they should be involved in the project.

[qwallis]

My view is the same as your Jillian.

It would seem to make sense to have a "framework" from within which we orchestrate any exhibition.
That should be the HCJ Project.

As I've mentioned before there is no barrier for people who would be taking part in such an exhibition.
They only have to understand what the project is.

Side Note: Have people seen the Facebook landing page?

[bert]

Conversations held in Forums often have "spurts" and then slow downs in entries.
I wanted to include a note here as to why that happens, as understanding how a forum works will make thing easier for you.

Notifications:
Email notifications are very helpful in letting you know when there has been an update to a thread or forum.
Forums can become very busy places though, so if you received an email every time someone posted to a "conversation" (Thread) or "room" (forum) you were watch, your inbox could become cluttered with "reminders".
So the notification system sends you one email for the first reply and no more until you return to the forums.

When you click the notification link you arrive back at the newest post which you haven't read; which allows you to "catch up" will all the new replies.

Sometime people receive a notification and decide to "check that out later", which is fair enough.
As long as you are aware that means you will not receive an further notifications until you pick up where you left off.

Voting:
This goes along way to explain why many site members aren't currently involved in voting.
They had one email notification, which they thought they'd look at when they had time, never got time and forgot.

How you use the forums is completely up to you: but because I'm prone to "forget" I make a habit of click notification emails and visiting the forum.
I DON'T always reply at that point: I often think "I'll do that later", but because I've checked-in a new reply sends me a new notification.

I find that works best for me

[2Roses]

We feel that opening this up to non-members would be beneficial to the project as a whole. By allowing non-members to see what we are doing and participate we can better demonstrate our value. Further, we propose that any non-members who are accepted into the exhibit are granted automatic membership in HCJ. Keep it simple, keep it open.

[bert]

We feel that opening this up to non-members would be beneficial to the project as a whole.

I'm very keen to take any action which will benefit the project (and it's members).

By allowing non-members to see what we are doing and participate we can better demonstrate our value.

The project is set up to run as openly as possible, I always direct any "questions" into the open arena rather than answering within email.
The only "closed" part of the project is the "member forums", which is principally where voting takes place.
This discussion is publicly accessible for example.

There is some "separation" between how the project is run and how information submitted is "presented" only because the people the project is ultimately trying to reach (i.e. the interested consumer) would not be interested in the workings of the project only the "end product".

Further, we propose that any non-members who are accepted into the exhibit are granted automatic membership in HCJ. Keep it simple, keep it open.

That's an idea I would support, but it is much easier to administer if people are at least registered on the main site (and preferably within the forums too) first.

Can't change permissions on a login that doesn't exist

We feel that opening this up to non-members would be beneficial to the project as a whole.

If you feel I'm missing your point do please elaborate.